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like you. push. >> pushing to avert the fiscal cliff. house republicans hours before the president's trip, pushed back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign style video. >> this notion of $250,000 being the top 2% or the wealthy people in america, ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> this political fight's over policy, but if you weren't paying attention, you would wear that the presidential election was still going on. while the fiscal cliff battle plays out, campaign politics marches on. >> i want to help create a better united states. we're months removed from the 2012 election, but governor rounds is looking forward to 2017. while 2014's a long way away, 2013 is just beyond the horizon, that's when chris christie -- >> i don't want to leave now. we have a job to do. that job won't be finished by next year. >> it may be the holiday season, but it seems there is no holiday from campaign politics. >> thanks, paul. >>> well, the priority for congress and the white house tomorrow, making head way on the fiscal cliff. and stopping automatic spending cut
style event in philadelphia, pushing to avert the fiscal cliff. house republicans hours before the president's trip push back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign style video. >> this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> this political fight is over policy, but if you weren't paying attention, you'd swear the presidential election was still going on. while the fiscal cliff battle plays out, campaign politics marches on. >> i want to help create a better united states. >> we're less than a month removed from the 2012 election, but former south dakota governor mike rounds is already looking ahead to 2014, announcing a bid for the sfath. >> i'll be out visiting in a lot of communities around south dakota. >> and he was the second republican to do that this past week. joining congresswoman shelly moore of west virginia. while 2014 is a long way away, 2013 is just over the horizon. that's when new jersey's chris christie is up for re-election and the tough-talking republican governor's m
that if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> the white house rejects a republican counter offer. >> john boehner sent a proposal that offers more than $2 trillion in deficit reductions but no tax increase. >> he will not sign an extension of the bush era tax cuts for the top 2%. >> folks worried about the fiscal cliff, are you like me? are you worried about it and have no idea what it is? >> according to state tv iran's revolutionary guard captured a u.s. drone after it entered the iriranian air space over the persian gulf. >> but u.s. navy official says there are no missing drones. >> prince william and his wife katherine, expecting their first child. >> after the duchess was admitted to hospital. >> that child could grow up to be one of the most powerful unemployed people in the world. >> a search is under way in new york for a man accused of pushing another man to his death in the subway. >>> rg3, he made opportunities. >> 17-16 washington redskins. >> all that -- >> why don't you shut up? >> you are an embarrassment. >>
house republicans to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. also president obama's getting ready to speak this hour about an urgent national security issue. u.s.-led efforts to try to track down and eliminate loose nuclear weapons. that's coming up. >>> also, frightening now revelations about an al qaeda plot for a three-part terror attack on the united states embassy in iman, jordan. i'll ask the country's foreign minister for details. he's standing by live. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this afternoon with brand-new republican offers to try to save the $2.2 trillion and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. the across-the-board spending cuts and sharp tax increases that hit in just 29 days. let's get straight to our senior congressional correspondent dana bash. she's watching what's going on. dana, the tax rates, first of all, let's get to a major sticking point right now. there's been a counterproposal from house republicans to the white house. you have details. >> reporter: that's right. let's start exactly where you just began on those tax rates because t
the president's fiscal cliff plant to republican house speaker john bain and not buying it. he just said white house needs to get serious and the markets are turning lower. also had fiscal cliffs survival kit home additions that you contain right now to prepare. dennis: blamed superstorm sandy. retailers playing the blame game for week november same store sales. analysts already asking what it really the storm or the economy did pull those numbers down? cheryl: we are watching a power ball conference this hour with more details expected on the two winners of the $580 million record jackpot from missouri and arizona. of gone home to buy my ticket. dennis: stocks every 15 minutes, nicole petallides, for the stock exchange where stocks the suddenly lower on more cliffphobia. nicole: i can say in the wall street traders saying every headline out of washington moving this market, fiscal cliff phobia is a good way to say it, whatever you want to call it we have seen so many dramatic moves in the market, a particular companies making moves in preparation or all been wary about the fiscal cliff, let's
house has set out its course here. i think you'll see something a lot different in the fiscal cliff negotiations from the white house than you saw in say the government shut down negotiations a year ago. you are going to see a much more campaigning, much more campaign-like president obama in the next month. jon: you know, some sort of even partial -- neutral observers are saying that the obama campaign won in part because they did a much better job of harnessing the power of social media in this election and driving their voters to the polls. if that succeeded for them in the election, can they do it when it comes to governing? can they make the country, you know, embrace tax increases, for instance. >> yeah it's a huge question. i think there are folks who think that it can work the same way. there are a lot of others who really question whether or not those sorts of tactics, and, you know, the list and voter contacts that ofa built in a campaign context, do they work on capitol hill and governing. there are some doubts there but i don't think there is any doubt that the white hous
to president obama's plan to keep us from falling over the fiscal cliff after the white house sent geithner to the hill last week outlining the democrats' plan which the republicans called "a joke." we are less than a month from going over the fiscal cliff and the term economists call the series of spending cuts and expiring tax breaks that will take effect the first of the year. that could cost millions of jobs and lead to a new recession. it is basically austerity on steroids. republicans with their counteroffer today again reject the president's plan if higher taxes on families earning more than $250,000 a year. wendell is live at the white house. if they reject that i don't know how far this will go. the president could blink but his eyes seem wide open. >>reporter: it is a nonstarter if they reject continuing the upper income tax cuts. the republicans say the plan cuts the deficits by $4.6 trillion based on the white house method of counting based on the recommendations of the president's deficit reduction commission but the president could disagree. the republicans say the plan would
did hold a fiscal cliff phone call. but there is still one big problem. the white house still doesn't want to budge. >> we saw no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2%. >> gretchen: but isn't government spending the real problem? why aren't we hearing a lot about that, a lot of dough being thrown around. >> brian: how much do you know about the fiscal cliff? >> it reminds me about something i probably learned in school. but some type of cliff, the economy going pow. >> isn't that the government? this is embarrassing. >> brian: how many people really know what it is and what it means? we hit the streets. >> steve: indeed, and bob costas and his no spin zone to defend his half time gun control rant. what did he say and what does former nfl player think? he will join us live to react this hour. "fox & friends" hour two for thursday starts right now. >> gretchen: i thought the same thing that scarlet johansson was in times square answering ainsley's question. i thought what, a lucky day for steve and brian that yesterday they would have petra an
. president and speaker hold a fiscal cliff call. there is a problem, the white house doesn't want to budge. >> we face no agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top two percent. >> gretchen: so is it really progress or a stand still. >> steve: meanwhile the reverend behind this nativity scene. live pictures and he has a message from the federal government. merry christmas, government. you are not the real savior. the reverend joins us live this christmas season. >> brian: super storm sandy couldn't wipe out his home but something else did. >> she said to me. are you sure your house is gone. you misplace a pen and pencil but not a house. >> gretchen: how the entire house vanished. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: a house is something that is not easy to misplace. if you leave it there, you come back and it is there. >> gretchen: you hope that happens. we'll fill you in on the details. in the meantime what happen in a phone call. a lot can happen, right. you can get in fights and agreements and compromise. hum, i am not so sure that h
cliff and 14 days until the house is scheduled to go to recess and leaders on the hill and in the white house are using words like stalemate, impas, radical and scrooge. we'll go behind the silly terms of the debate and also take you through all the sticking points holding back that will do one-by-one over the next three hours. we start today with the very latest move by democratic leader nancy pelosi who is threatening a power play move to force a vote on extending middle class tax cuts. this morning, president obama also pushed away republican senator orrin hatch called his proposal, radical. >> it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the we weltmist americans. >> what he proposed this week is a classic bait and switch on the american people. a tax increase doubled the size of what he campaigned on. >> joining me now nbc news white house correspondent mike viqueira. mike, let's talk about this thing. this is the time the lawmakers are breaking out the rule book to find some tricks. ho
laughing in the white house negotiator's face. so is there any hope of a compromise over the fiscal cliff. we're talking to the newly re-elected minority whip steny hoyer coming up next. ♪ well, it's that time of year again. you know, picture-taking season. and with photo stream, you can share all the photos you want, with just the people you want. it's as easy as pie. mmmm..pie. [ female announcer ] holiday cookies are a big job. everything has to be just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. >>> 17 minutes past the hour here on a friday. well, the white house plan to avoid the fiscal cliff to congressional leaders, and republicans, laughed in their faces. literally in the case of mitch mcconnell. >> the plan calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenues, $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlements, $50 billion for a new stimulus, and republicans really didn't like this one, congress would have to give up control over raising the debt limit. we want to bring in now the recently re-elected house minority whip maryland c
the american people about the fiscal cliff. it's part of the white house push to build support. the president has answered a few questions so far. let's get backe to kristen welker. she's monitoring the exchanges. what have we learned, kristen? >> reporter: good afternoon. most exchanges have to do with questions concerning increasing taxes on wealthier americans as well as cuts to sbimgentitlemen. one exchange caught our attention. this is from mandy. as a recent college grad bout wout a full time job these cuts wouldn't help me, would they? the president responds kitts without revenue equal reductions in student loans, work study and college tax credits expire. bad for growth. the president says like your hair. she has purple hair, tamron. a lot of questions pouring in. as you know when you look at the polls about 60% of americans agree with president obama's plan to increase taxes on those making $250,000 or more. if you look at questions coming in, there's still concerns about those ideas, so the president answering those this afternoon. this is really like a twitter town hall. he used a
to actually go over the fiscal cliff. just one day after the treasury secretary said the white house is absolutely prepared to do just that under certain circumstances a leading economist is echoing those sentiments. >> i would not come up with a deal unless it's a really good deal before the end of the year. i would take it into next year if that means you're going to get a better deal. >> let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana bash. dana, democrats are saying this is either raise tax rates for the wealthy or they are prepared to go over the cliff. there must be a lot of fear up there about all of this. what are you hearing in the halls of congress? >> reporter: there's a lot of fear. there's no question on both sides of the aisle. even top republicans disagree with that. even republicans who don't want to give on that big issue dan talked about, tax rates for the wealthy. john kyle, number two republican in the senate i spoke with him and he said he thinks any deal would be better than going over the cliff. the reason is because there's so many problems, real li
verbal warnings. >>> the politics now and ongoing finger pointing over the fiscal cliff. the white house says it's not making a deal unless republicans agree to raise taxes on the top 2% of the nation. one republican congressman from ohio tells cnn that approach is just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the deficit offering his thoughts on what it will take to reach a solution. >> if you look at just what the president is talking about, everybody says the 2% and so forth and so on. that generates $900 billion over ten years which is $90 billion a year. that would operate the government for 11 days. so we are borrowing $1.6 trillion. i think the president if he wants to take the deal and comes forward with real entitlement reform, there's a deal to be had. this is going to be a negotiation between the president of the united states and house speaker john boehner and so we have engaged in some charades over the last 16 years where we all pretend to be working in our offices but we're not doing anything to get this done because there's nothing we can do. this is going to be a discussion
around this fiscal cliff, and you're talking about the housing market. there is talk about what would happen if some of these real estate write-offs are at least reduced or, you know, somehow changed. the housing market is one area that's actually shown positives in the past year or so. any sort of change with that to the mortgage interest deduction and also, any change, possibly in property taxes and those deductions could have a negative effect on the economy. but you know, kelly, there are things that are in our control, if you will. it seems like things are out of control with these d.c. negotiations. but there are some things that we can look at. >> kelly: let me ask you, we, as you said, it's out of control what we can do to get congress and the president to step up and do the right thing and find common ground and give us a solution. so, what's in our control, should we go off that fiscal cliff because of congress's inactivity? >> more than you would think. the first thing, take a look at long-term capital gains and you've probably been hearing this in the news, if you've held
's plan to avert the fiscal cliff. guess what, the white house rejected it, calling the gop proposal unbalanced and not serious. translation? no tax hikes on the wealthy so democrats said forget about it. we thought you should take a look. it totals $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. the part that stood out to us was $600 billion in proposed savings in medicare reforms. how? in part by raising the age of eligibility to 65 to maybe 67. turning down the gop proposal, dan pfieffer said, quote, it provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which medicare savings they would achieve." let's head now to the white house and dan lothian. the white house will not offer a counter proposal, right? what's going on here? >> reporter: well, you know, i think the white house is digging in. the president said early on in this process that he would only sit down and really move forward, negotiate on this in any meaningful way if the tax hikes for the wealthy expired. and republicans have been pushing back on that -- tax breaks rathe
on fox news sunday. discussing the stalemate of the fiscal cliff between white house and republicans on capitol hill. i sat down with the anchor chris wallace to hear more about the exclusive interview interviews. >> you had two key players. >> we had tim geithner the point man for president. and john boehner, the point man for the congressional and house republicans. >> geithner made the offer to boehner on thursday. boehner said, tells us, he was flabbergasted and said you can't be serious. it called for doublebe what the president talked about in public. not $800 billion in new revenue but $1.6 trillion in revenue. only $600 million in entitlement and spending cuts. well, that is not one to one or three to one. more revenue than spending cuts. they are really far away now. i understand negotiations. i understand opening bid. for first time, it occurred to me they might not get it done. >> you get a sense hearing from both of them that is a real possibility. what do you make of the negotiation of the tactic? it seems like what secretary geithner behalf of the president brought to t
, saying he is slightly pessimistic. he says there is 2/3 chance they will go off the fiscal cliff. that is not what the markets want to hear, jon. jon: not at all. ed henry at the white house. if jay carney relents and let you into the meeting give us a shot. we'll be on air. >> reporter: i will give you a copy of the menu. jon: please do, thanks. jenna: we'll forget about politicians just for a moment. i promise we'll return there surely over the next couple hours. let's talk about some renewed private sector pushing to really slash the federal budget. a group called citizens against government waste is calling for nearly $2 trillion in cuts the next five years. doug mckelway is live with the story. doug, how realistic is that goal? >> reporter: how realistic is the goal? not realistic at all. let's be honest about this. at least it is a benchmark we can strive for. citizens against government waste went through the federal budget, they identified $392 billion in cuts. $1.8 trillion in cuts over next five years. which totals 11% of the federal budget, none which touches the most
. appreciate it. the battle over the fiscal cliff, certainly heating up. house speaker john boehner says the two sides are at a stalemate. no big surprise. while president obama says the only thing holding up the deal is quote a handful of republicans. here we go again. peter barnes in washington with the latest on the stalemate. peter? >> that's right, ash. speaker boehner said a stalemate, quote, let's not kid ourselves for punctuation. he and the president were both out in front of cameras today to try to convince voters that both of them are ready to keep talking. >> i'm willing to move forward in good faith. our original framework still stand. instead of raising tax rates we can produce similar amount of revenue, reforming the tax code to close loopholes and lower tax rates. >> this is not some run-of-the-mill debate. this isn't about which political party can come out on top in negotiations. and all of us will have to get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. i'm willing to do that. i'm hopeful that enough members of congress in both parties are willing to do that as well.
politics." >>> another day of fiscal cliff drama. stocks reversed early gains and fell shortly after house speaker john boehner dashed hopes that lawmakers were getting closer to agreeing on a year-end budget deal. but all three major markets did bounce back by the afternoon. >>> economic data was positive thursday, but we'll see what impact there is today from grim news out of europe. eurozone unemployment has hit another record high at 11.7% in october. >>> the number of retailers posted poor sales hammered by superstorm sandy's impact on the northeast. >>> a bankruptcy judge has given hostess final clearance to start selling off assets and approved $1.8 million in bonuses for company executives. >>> verizon wireless tops this year's "consumer reports" ranking of major carriers. it was at&t that came in last behind sprint and t-mobile, except among 4g users where it was the best. >>> and where is the best country to be born in 2013? well, when factoring in life expectancy, divorce rates and rainfall, it's switzerland, according to the economist. i bet all the chocolate doesn't hurt. the
the fiscal cliff a lot of investment houses are lowering their growth outlook. that is because the owners of small businesses, they are the drivers of the economy. they hire. right now, one out of five cut jobs in the next 12 months. one out of three is cutting capital spending. if there is no jobs we don't have consumer spending that is 70% of g.d.p., so this is really steam rolling. it is frightening. >> gregg: i was reading economists and they say household purchases, wages in salary going down, durable goods decreasing now we have manufacturing coming out on monday as well as jobs report on thursday or friday? >> yeah, the jobs report is expected to be very dismal, about 75,000 net jobs. some of that is because of sandy, but housing market is rebuilding, it's recovering. that makes people feel more wealthy. this retail season is going to be very critical. it's going to tell us a lot. stocks could go up on that. we have some tail winds but right now there is a lot of question marks. >> gregg: brenda, we'll talk about sandy and impact on the economy in the next hour. you can catch brend
it comes to taxes. as you all know by now house republicans sent in a fiscal cliff counter offer yesterday but the white house is calling it no good. i want to give you an idea of where the two sides stand right now. boehner's new plan would raise $2.2 trillion. now it would extend the bush tax cuts for everyone and yes that does include the top 2%. and it would instead raise $800 billion in revenue from so-called tax reform and that's what we mean when we talk about capping deductions and closing loopholes. the rest of the money comes from cuts to both mandatory and discretionary programs. now to recap again on the president's offer, he wants to raise $1.6 trillion, that's double boehner's amount on the rich an and he's asking for more than $200 billion in stimulus spending and promising about $400 billion worth of cuts to social programs. now obviously those two plans have very little in common. neither side is budging when it comes to their demands on taxes. but now here are a few problems with boehner's proposal.
correspondent mike viqueira. what can you make of this? fiscal cliff talks are they a nonstarter? >> i tell you, you listen to everything that is being said publicly. you see the president there. it's clear that the election, yes, is over. but the campaign goes on here. you know, i really believe that there two things that are clear from the white house to republicans. we are still in preliminary stages here, which is the good news, considering they are far apart. number two, the white house clearly feels it has the upper hand. it came with the $1.6 billion in new revenues and that's twice what the president was talking about before the election. republicans, obviously, rejecting it out of hand. we all heard by now republican leader in the senate mitch mcconnell laughed at it. there you see some of the provisions there. $600 billion in savings. some of it from medicare, another 50 billion in spending and new spending on infrastructure and stimulus spending. that's something that republicans aren't going to want to go to. the two sides are far apart. here we are on december 1st, the clock is tic
's economy goes over the so-called fiscal cliff. the white house and congressional republicans said to be deadlocked. president obama released his plan. it includes 1.6 trillion dollars in new tax increases. 50 billion in new stimulus spending. and stimulus, and new power to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval. tim geithner, john boehner appearing with chris wallace on fox news sunday. >> we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. we put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to get this question resolved but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they have actually asked for more revenue than they have been asking the whole entire time. >> in kind of a tough position now. it is going to be, obviously a little hard for them now. they're trying to figure out where they go next. we might need to give them a little more time to let them go next. we did what you expect from us. we laid out a very detailed, carefully designed set of spending savings and tax changes that help put us back on a path to fiscal responsibility. bill: where are we
meets with governors at the white house. they will be discussing, what else, the impending fiscal cliff. >>> news corporations uk chief tom mockridge is stepping down. he took over the unit 18 months ago at the height of the company's phone hacking scandal >>> the time has finally come, cory booker taking the food stamp challenge this week. the newark mayor will only be eating with food he can buy for $37. that is the average food stamped benefit in his week. booker said he will be giving up coffee because he can't afford it. that will be tough for us. >> no doubt. >> interesting to see at the end of that how he does. >> i'm sure he will be documenting on twitter what goes on during those days. coming up, one of the strangest cases of cosmetic surgery, can't make this up. did you read about this? mustache implants. that's right. we'll tell you about it next. [ male announcer ] when this hotel added aflac to provide a better benefits package... oahhh! [ male announcer ] it made a big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male
to avoid the fiscal cliff. but republican house speaker john boehner dismisses it as, and i'm quoting, la la land. the republicans offered their proposal, that happened about 24 hours ago. the white house quickly labels it as nothing new. business as usual, right? so how do we move beyond this stalemate in washington? we heard from the president, just a short time ago. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin joins me now, jessica, the president spoke out, sat down in an interview with bloomberg tv, and in listening to the interview, did you hear any clues toward a possible compromise here? >> reporter: not new clues, brooke. the president laid down the marker that we heard from the white house consistently, which is they aren't moving until they hear the republicans agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest. listen to what the president had to say. >> i think that, you know, we have the potential of getting a deal done, but it is going to require what i talked about during the campaign, which is a balanced responsible approach to deficit reduction that can help give businesses
. >> wow, looks bad. ooh. >>> this morning, less than a month now before the big federal fiscal cliff. and we have some details on a war of word between treasury secretary tim geithner and house speaker john boehner. we will also update you on where the negotiations stand. right now by all accounts it is deadlocked right now with the clock continuing to tick down. >> a little testy. a little heated there. >>> and later this half hour, this year's gift wrap champ is here with her expert advice. find out how to wrap the most difficult presents, including a guitar, a candle, which is always difficult around the holidays to give. hope you don't give jenny a candle. >> i will light her fire, but not giving her a candle. you like to wrap. did you learn anything? >> i am horrible at wrapping, but i wanted to learn and get better. so i actually learned some great tips. >> take it to the lovely lady in the mall. >> i will wrap you. >> safety first. wrap it up. >>> but first, 62,000 football fans filled arrowhead stadium in kansas city the day after jovan belcher killed his girlfriend and then
to the edge of the fiscal cliff. and house republicans had harsh words for president obama after he released a budget proposal suggesting more taxes, more spending. >> he wants the power to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval and they cannot issue an edict like a monarchy, congress, congress, congress is in charge of the purse. the government has gone wild. >> dave: in that congressman's words has they become a monarchy, explaining from texas, congressman poe. >> good morning, dave. >> dave: how has this administration become like a monarchy? >> well, the president in his proposal basically said, turn everything over to me, give me the power or let me take the power to raise the debt ceiling, that seems to be quite arrogant on his part and if he's serious about it, they be what he's really saying is, i want to spend more money. that's how i want to solve the fiscal cliff problem, is spending more taxpayer money. so, the president doesn't have the authority to raise the debt ceiling, he shouldn't have the authority. congress, as you all mentioned earlier is in charge of the
that the blame, if they go over the fiscal cliff, the blame would rest on congressional republicans. so the white house and democrats believe they are holding more cards in this debate. >> you talk about the blame on republicans. but i just spoke with former chair of the dnc who said he thinks we should go over the fiscal cliff and we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> he's the first person i have heard say that it in public that he thinks we should go over the fiscal cliff. everyone i talked to in washington wants to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. and most importantly, they don't want to get the blame for it. that's why republicans will probably be motivate d to negotiate with the white house. it might be christmas eve, but in the end, that's what's going to bring them to the table. >> he said after a week or two, there would be the negotiations. he said instead of a cliff, it was like a curb. david, if americans, though, are going to blame the gop more so than the president, how much leverage does that give the president as negotiations are underway? >> i think it gives him substantial lever
by the white house to talk about what the president's pitch is regarding the fiscal cliff. he's been adamant, the top 2% have to pay a higher tax rate and apparently he wanted the folks from the leftist network all on board with him. >> so in the bush administration, we would sometimes need to do something like talk radio row, i think we called it. it was brilliant. we had the conservative talk radio hosts lined up and get a hole bunch of interviews so they could be persuaded on president bush's plan on things like tax reform, immigration. so from a tactical standpoint, i think president obama is saying, let me talk to people so they make sure they know where i'm coming from. here is the thing that he could do, he is talking to people who agree with him. although some people on the left actual will he want him to go even further left. i think he felt like he need to do shore up those things. but i think president obama is miss ago big opportunity here. i think if he invited some people who don't agree with him, he might be surprised at what he could accomplish. he might be able to charm them
and democrats are at a stalemate again in negotiations to avoid the "fiscal cliff." susan mcginnis reports, key players took to the sunday talk shows to make their stances known. >>> reporter: the white house is already decorated for the holidays but the mood here in washington is anything but festive. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act, america will ring in the new year with $110 billion in spending cuts and a $500 billion tax increase leaving the average household with a nearly $3,500 hangover. treasury secretary timothy geithner was here on capitol hill last week to present the president's plan to congress. >> i was flabbergasted. you can't be serious! >> reporter: president obama wants $1.6 trillion on the rich, $400 billion in cuts to entitlement programs and billions in more spending. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell laughed at geithner during their meeting last week. now geithner says if republicans don't like the plan, it's up to them to present their own ideas. >> what we can't do is try to figure out what works for them. they have to tell us what w
party. you're a republican, he's democrat. 30 days and counting until we go over the fiscal cliff unless congress in the white house cuts a deal to avoid tax cuts. it sounds like two groups of people are looking at two different sets of numbers. take a look. >> we prefer to do upfront alongside a deal that includes raising rates on americans. we are prepared to do a meaningful amount of spending on the saving side, not just to avoid the damage of the sequester but to help reduce our long-term deficit. >> i was disappointed by the president's proposal. i think it is essentially a rerun of his budget proposal. the revenue proposals are $1.6 trillion in revenue and tax increases. it's a massive tax increase. but also not significant and meaningful in entitlement reforms. >> so, anna, i hear comments like those and remarks by john boehner and the president of the united states and i wonder after the election, did we learn anything? because i -- my reading on the election was that the people, the voters wanted compromise. and for the people in washington to talk to each other not at each othe
with anna moving higher on the list. >>> well, another day of fiscal cliff drama made for choppy trading on wall street thursday. stocks reversed early gains and fell shortly after house speaker john boehner dashed hopes that lawmakers were getting closer to agreeing on a year-end budget deal. but all three major markets bounced back by the afternoon. >>> economic data was positive at home thursday. we'll see what impact there is today from grim news out of europe. eurozone unemployment has hit another record high at 11.7% in october. >>> meanwhile, a number of retailers posted poor sales hammered by superstorm sandy's impact on the northeast. >>> a bankruptcy judge has given hostess final clearance to start selling off assets and approved $1.8 million in bonuses for company executives. >>> verizon wireless tops this year's "consumer reports'" ranking of major carriers. it was at&t that came in last behind sprint and t-mobile, except among 4g users where it was the best. >>> where is the best country to be born in 2013? well, when factoring in life expectancy, divorce rates, and rainfall
house is rejecting a republican averting the "fiscal cliff,"... saying it would lower tax rates for the wealthy and stick the middle class with the bill. the house republican plan calls for 800-billion dollars in higher tax revenue over 10 years... but would keep the bush-era tax cuts in place for all income earners. president obama wants to end tax cuts for americans making more than 250-thousand dollars a year. the bottom line -- lawmakers made no progress today on an agreement. >> mitt romney has a job again.. he's returning to the board of directors at marriott international hotel.... he's been on the board twice before - but left to run for political office. romney has kept a low profile since the election - spending his time with his family at their california home. the romney and marriott families are close -- in fact - willard mitt romney was named after the hotel's founder -- j. willard marriott... >> heavy fighting between rebel and government forces in syria. now there is concern that syria could plan on using chemical weapons against the rebels. obama is warmin morn
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the fiscal cliff a joke. this morning the man who made that offer is telling the other er e it's time to put up or shut up. >> and the speaker of the house says the president knows what republicans want but with just 29 days left, it's looking as though both sides are playing a game of political chicken. bill plante is at the white house. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. and good morning out west. that's right. 29 days until the fiscal cliff. the real deadline could be even closer. one of the negotiators tells cbs news that to actually get the deal done by the end of the year a plan needs to be in place by but at nd-december. ut at the moment, very few are optimistic about that. >> t >> there's no path to an ag agreement. thates not involve republicans acknowledging that rates have to go up for the wealthiest americans. geithneury secretary tim ompromisetalked tough on sunday. promising any compromise must n thede a tax rate increase on the wealthy. >> the only thing that stands in the way of an agreement that's wa ood for the american economy is that a group of republicans we
will go over the fiscal cliff. this is a compromise on taxes. >> so the white house now, christine, is insisting that they won't talk specifics on entitlement reform, which is what republicans want until they budge on those income tax rates, budging on increasing them for wealthy americans. as you know, republicans at this point dug in saying they're not going to do that. the white house feels they have the upper hand here because so many americans, we talked about 7 in 10 think those income tax rates should go up. >> this is a proposal, there are some differences, bowles would not have raged the eligibility age for social security. what does he think of this plan? >> he also thinks another big thing is missing, that's increasing those tack rates for wealthy americans. here's what he said. >> i am positive to get a deal done you will have to have higher tax rates on the top 2%. i'm equally sure the $350 billion worth of cuts that the president put on the table for health care entitlements is not going to be sufficient to get the deal done. there will have to be compromise. >> the w
for the wealthy and quote, sticks the middle class with the bill. so with 29 days to go until the fiscal cliff, what would it take to get a deal? joining me now, men on opposite sides, grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given that both sides know where they need to move, why the games? >> well, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so
the republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. and this gives frankly, this gives the white house and this gives the obama administration much more bargaining leverage. >> grover norquist, here's the problem, it seems to me. again, as long as the posturing goes on with fairly ridiculous offers on both sides and lots of political rhetoric along the lines of well, they're not giving an inch, we're going backwards, you can't really go backwards from a position of complete standstill, as far as i'm concerned. as this goes on, the american economy stalls, wall street's nervous, the consumers that should be out there now buying lots of christmas presents and boosting the economy will be reticent because they'll be thinking hang on, what's going to happen come the end of the year, am i suddenly going to have to find more money. everything starts to once again get paralyzed and somebody's got to give here. now, are the republicans prepared to go over this cliff on the pure point of refusing to allow increased income tax on the richest 2% of the country? and if so, why? it's such a small thing to fall ov
to the fiscal cliff battle being waged in washington. now, late this afternoon house speaker john boehner sent a letter to the president detailing a bold counter offer to the administration's plan. the g.o.p. proposal does not include a tax increase on the so-caldwell thee but does contain $800 billion in revenue through tax reform, another $600 billion in health savings and much more. all told, the net savings amount to around 2.2 trillion dollars. the white house responded to this letter by saying that the president is, quote, willing to compromise but not on the subject of making job creators pay more in taxes. however, what our tax and spend commander-in-chief fails to understand is that putting money into the hands of you, the american people, is the single best way to spur economic growth, and it's not just people like ronald reagan who understand this principle. bill clinton famously said the era of big government is over and the end of wel welfare as we know it. why? because government is not the answer. government is the problem. there was that other iconic democrat, the one that occu
the white house told the pentagon and other federal agencies you better get ready for the fiscal cliff, possible layoffs, other issues, that shows we are getting closer and closer to this really becoming a reality, harris. >> ed henry, outside the white house. ed, thank you very much. for the first time, we are hearing something very tough to listen to. it is the desperate 911 call from javon belcher's own mother. the kansas city chief's nfl player who shot his girlfriend. surveillance video showed a mother allegedly sneaking her little daughter out of the hospital. doctors had warned the young leukemia patient had something in her heart that would kill her within days if they didn't deal with it. now word of a major development. what her father reportedly says about where that child is right now. stay close. same item at walmart f less? gee okay. fijit friends. fifteen bucks on rollback. wow! that's a savings of over 29 bucks! twenty-nine bucks!!?? and they're powered by friendship. see for yourself if you could save on brands you want. walmart. can i still ship a gift in time r chris
're going to hit the fiscal cliff. spending cuts, tax hikes. until lawmakers can reach a deal. house speaker john boehner pr pretty blunt on on where he felt the cliff negotiations were standing. listen. >> i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. >> the nothing he's talking about is the president's plan which was delivered to gop leaders last week by the treasury secretary, timothy geithner. ca calls for $1.6 trillion in new revenue. republicans say that figure is unacceptable. until they present their own plan the white house is standing by that proposal right now. despite the parties and lines in the sand we're joined by two republican law make rs. i've overwhelmed by republican lawmakers this morning. >> you're surrounded, soledad. >> connie mack is with us this morning and mary bono mack. i'm used to it on this show. it's interesting to hear boehner saying, listen, nowhere, period. nowhere. which sounded very final a
. >> when the treasury secretary issued the proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff to republicans that they laughed. house speaker stated that bulls then the revenue over the next decade would be a crippling blow to the economy. >> let's not kid ourselves. the country cannot afford nor should we try to think in terms of this. >> the key sticking point is taxes. the democrats want to extend the bush cuts. republicans do not want to a tax rate increases on anyone period. they hope that by the president coming out to talk to the public that this will help congress make a decision. with just 32 days before the tax hikes there are as you signs of progress. >> still ahead on kron 4 news weekend. we are continuing to follow the storm. we will have a live report from milk valley and conditions there. let's take a live look at the san mateo bridge. the traffic is moving okay. >> some breaks de and snowboarding conditions are in the sierra this weekend. if these pictures were sent to us from north star resorts. this is the power both ski trail at north star. the resort got 12 in. of new sno
standing in the way of resolving this fiscal cliff, john boehner. who probably now has earned the titles of the worst speaker certainly in our lifetime if not the worst speaker ever in the history of the house of representatives. the guy is just a totals total loser. look. here is where things stand. right? it's not complicated. president obama, we've got this big debt crisis. president obama, two things -- number 1, months ago, he put out a detailed plan. it's in print, and it's online, of how to resolve this fiscal crisis. no. 2, the republicans said we are not going to deal with it. we will take seven weeks off. we will have an election and let the people decide. president obama went out in front of the american people. there was one issue, the central issue. it wasn't the war in iraq iran's nuclear possibility of iran getting nuclear weapons it wasn't peace in the middle east. it wasn't immigration reform. the number 1 was issue was president obama said very clear, we want the wealthiest two percents of americans to pay more in tax after havin
republicans send the president a fiscal cliff counter offer. but will it break the stalemate? plus, searching for answers. after police say a pro-football player murdered his girlfriend. then offed himself. >> this is a real tragedy, horrible tragedy. >> it's been a very big for our challenge and for our family. >> shepard: now, witnesses and police describing how it happened. >> they talked for a little bit and that's when he shot himself. >> tonight questions about the motive and what went down before the shooting began? >> plus, the race to save a little girl. >> we have searched for these -- the location of these individuals, both locally and out of state. >> a mother accused of sneaking her sick daughter out of the hospital and if doctors don't soon treat the girl, police say she could be dead within days. and wonder what you a dutches for her baby shower. prince william's wife kate is expecting a child. tonight great britain prepares to welcome a future monarch. but first from fox this monday night. the murder-suicide that has stunned pro-football. the kansas city chief players and fans
>>> i'm thomas robertson for tamron hall on assignment. the political theater over the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary tim geithner is on capitol hill right now set to meet with nancy pelosi in less than an hour. earlier today geithner met behind closed doors with house speaker john boehner, senate majority leader harry reid and frank mcconnell. the word he used to describe the overall negotiations, disappointing. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. listen, this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult leadership. campaign style rallies and one-sided leaks in the press are not the way to get things done here in washington. >> democrats today said they're confident a deal can be reached by christmas. but admit negotiations would need to pick up steam. as for senator reid, he says it's now up to the gop to make the next move. >> we're still waiting for a serious offer from the republicans. the president has made his proposal. we need a propo
up with one-time rival mitt romney for lunch at white house. could a solution to the fiscal cliff be on the menu? live report from washington straight ahead. >> plus this -- stunning video out of syria, rebels cheer after a military helicopter is shot down. what does it mean for the united states? >>> drones. we know the military uses them. well, get ready for drones possibly buzzing your house. >>> and forget steroids. adderall is the new p.e.d. and four nfl players are suspended. >>> cup of joe, only one question left. something you would buy? >> no, not at all. >> "newsroom" starts now. >> good morning to you. thank you so much for being with me. i'm carol costello. we begin in washington today where president obama will play host to mitt romney this afternoon andn what could be one of the most anticipated meals in the nation's capital since thanksgiving. white house correspondent dan lothian joins me now. so, i don't know. i would love to be a fly on the wall. wouldn't you? >> no cameras allowed inside for this lunch. this is something the president said he wanted to do in hi
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